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Saying the facilities aren't built to take care of children and so, in a way, we shouldn't be surprised that they're having issues but the level of these issues reached, they're so extreme that i think she needed to do something and that's why she is going. >> so, okay. jumping off of that, are you getting a sense that this is a real effort on her part to figure out what changes need to be made and implement the changes or save face because of the death of the two young children? >> you know, it is interesting. i have noticed a shift in the way that secretary nielsen and also the commissioner ...