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Up 11 or 12 or 13 million people. we have to have some kind of human ability to discriminate. >> all right. you said also i'm a hawk but a cheap hawk, so tell me more. what do you mean by that? what are you cutting? >> well, sure. i'll give you two examples. we ought to apply systems to military procurement. it is absurd in an age when you have computers turning around in six months to a year to havive 0 or 15 or 20 year procurement cycles. you could probably eliminate several hundred thousand jobs in the process by getting rid of all the red tape. my dad was in the u.s. army and we were stati...

Up 11 or 12 or 13 million people. we have to have some kind of human ability to discriminate. >> all right. you said also i'm a hawk but a cheap hawk, so tell me more. what do you mean by that? what are you cutting? >> well, sure. i'll give you two examples. we ought to apply systems to military procurement. it is absurd in an age when you have computers turning around in six months to a year to havive 0 or 15 or 20 year procurement cycles. you could probably eliminate several hundred thousand jobs in the process by getting rid of all the red tape. my dad was in the u.s. army and we were stati...