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>> these are not torture. these are techniques that we know work. that debate is over. it worked. it got the intelligence. it wasn't torture. it was legal. >> all false. let's bring in the president of the foundation for democracy, defense of democracy's cliff may and also former cia officer jack rice. gentlemen, good to have you with us tonight. jack, ms. cheney is obviously referring to waterboarding there. she says it worked. it wasn't torture. it was legal. what about that? >> well, ed, thanks for having me on the program. first of all, it was torture and guess what? the reason the bush ad...

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Foolish policies of the administration. >> okay. a top u.s. interrogator spoke with "forbes" magazine recently and for security reasons he couldn't give his name. he has interrogated high value targets at gitmo, iraq, and afghanistan where he is stationed right now. he said this. waterboarding and/or other coercive techniques did nothing to contribute to our attempts to track down osama bin laden. what did succeed was weeks and months and years of diligent, laborerous work within legal and ethical boundaries. >> at least three named directors of the cia would say that's wrong. let's understand...

Enhanced interrogation methods. one more thing i think should be talked about because it is an outrage and i think both of you will agree, right now the interrogators who carried out this work and did so in the belief that what they were doing was lawful, authorized by the justice department, they face the threat of prosecution. that threat should be removed. they contributed to the outcome we saw. they contributed to president obama's greatest victory. they should not be prosecuted for that. >> jack, how do you feel about that? >> more importantly i would go after the people at the top of the...

>> let's face it. bad food is not torture. >> well, it is right now. you know, right now that would be -- such methods are considered to be -- >> let me finish the point. >> it is but you're not telling the truth. >> what we have to address is that this was boring, slow, prodding work. it wasn't the torture that actually resulted in the capture or in this case death of osama bin laden. in fact, what it was was a reorganization of the cia counterterrorism center, the fact that we put a ton of people on the ground in pakistan. we did the work that was necessary. this is not one quick fix, one al...