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Emanuel massacre involved a person with a media and terror again of losing women to black men, right? there was a piece to what he did. we seen these other killers do it. i wonder how women you think because suburban women are the thing that both parties are both going after. particularly white suburban women. do you think this at some point starts resinating, oh, there is this desire to control us and that's where this anti abortion mania, do people start making those connections in your view? >> i mean, i hope so but i don't think they have yet. i mean, obviously, i think even suburban women...

In this country. >> sure. and somebody who says the moratorium needs to be lifted is governor bobby jindal and would somebody go down to the gulf coast and pin a medal on that guy's chest? i mean, he is doing really great work down there. as for the lowly plumber, as he described himself, think about it. i know he's anonymous and maybe professor b might be able to identify him. if they used his idea and he said he didn't want money, he didn't want any acclaim but the very least they could do, if that was his idea, give the guy some money. all right. give the guy a couple million bucks. >> i kn...