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There's not the excitement. >> it would have been difficult under any circumstances. in 2008, it was the thing to do. i spent time with the youth voters literally from north carolina to colorado to new mexico. this was like the hottest ticket in town. it was like, i don't know what you could compare it to, the greatest rock concert in the world, combined with a cause. the people i talked to when i was in florida last time, a couple academic types, professor types what are you hearing on your campus? this is going to be a tough sell because it's not the first time. itis not the first event. the...

I think given some of the names that have been talked about, the likelihood is the democrats and the president will get their way. a republican senator told me the other day when talking about what's the attitude or mood going to be like on capitol hill once the president sends up a nominee and he said, well, i think i'll go to the middle east for a vacation at that point. >> john, let me ask you. we heard it a bit when sonia sotomayor was nominated prior to the announcement of her name and we're hearing it again this time, this notion of nominating someone who has other experience. more real ...