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About the almost capricious nature of this, it's like a little kid as version of being in charge, i can do whatever i want and nobody can stop me. >> it's true. and no withone can stop him bec he's acted within the parameters of the pardon powers. i just take note of the timeline, that all of this action is happening. and what's the common denom eighto -- denominator? there's no common denominator, as the brother was telling you, between the politics of rod blagojevich and dinesh d'souza. you couldn't identify more high profile cases. if you wanted to make sure everybody caught up in the muell...

Ears open. wants to get as much information as possible. perfectly appropriate -- >> doesn't the white house have an obligation to also consider the optics of this? i show you're getting another skype call as we speak from somebody else. but doesn't the white house owe the public perspective piece of it to the americans to not have emmit flood show up and ask all these questions? >> i don't think so. i think flood is his defense lawyer, and flood has the right to get the information. other people are concerned with the optics. he's not the white house's lawyer. he's the personal lawyer for the...

>> rick: what's rudy guliani's motive to get this wrapped up by september. >> there's a political angle to all these cases. getting this wrapped up for the president's sake, taking this off the table, he's probably confident that there's not going to be any kind of collusion, in quotes, kind of charge and then he wants to take care of the obstruction of justice issue through an interview and be done with it. so i think he wants to at least provide an end date for the public and then provide an end date for his client to get it behind him. >> rick: you've represented a lot of clients in a lot o...

Investigating energy companies over their role in climate change one of the highest profile cases is in new york it's not about twenty thousand euros it's about billions of dollars. the findings of carol moffat and others provided the impetus. the. attorney general eric schneiderman who's currently investigating exxon and its former c.e.o. rex tillerson trump secretary of state. they have told the public for years that there were no competent models was the specific term used by an exxon executive not so long ago no competent models to project climate patterns and we know that they paid millio...

Be -- it will probably be recorded. it will not be grand jury testimony. it will be in an informal setting. i completely agree with greg that the oath is not significant as a legal matter. martha stewart wasn't under oath when she got indicted for making false statements. i would imagine that it's going to be ultimately released. it's not as clear as it was -- in our case, it was part of a sealed impeachment report or impeachment filing that we made with congress and congress decided to disclose it. here, it's not clear what if any mechanism there is for mueller to disclose confidential things...