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Judge. you know, so, i think it's both striking and it's also very good politics on gorsuch's part because one of the issues, especially now with his nomination, is how independent will he be as a justice of the man who appointed him. and here he is telling the senators he disagrees with trump on a pretty high profile issue. >> it is pretty extraordinary. you've covered the courts, jeffrey, for a long time. to hear a president demean federal judges and indeed the whole process, if you will, of oral arguments before an appellate court like we heard last night as demoralizing. whatever words he ...

Affect me, a lot of my issues from back then don't affect me anymore. i'm not saying that they are gone. but i know how to deal with them now. >> the reason for the sex offender program is such a high profile issue, and, quite frankly, the other reason is that sex offenders are going to get out of prison anyway. so we -- we are doing our best to rehabilitate them. because it is relatively new, we don't have statistics as far as recidivism rate, but we do know that we're giving them the tools to survive without re-offending out in society. >> it is liberating. i mean, it is like a weight off my...

Deal with issues that still affect me, a lot of my issues from back then don't affect me anymore. i'm not saying that they are gone. but i know how to deal with them now. >> the reason for the sex offender program is such a high profile issue, and, quite frankly, the other reason is that sex offenders are going to get out of prison anyway. so we -- we are doing our best to rehabilitate them. because it is relatively new, we don't have statistics as far as recidivism rate, but we do know that we're giving them the tools to survive without re-offending out in society. >> it is liberating. i mean...

It's helped a helluva lot. i now have a lot more tools to deal with issues that still affect me, a lot of my issues from back then don't affect me anymore. i'm not saying that they are gone. but i know how to deal with them now. >> the reason for the sex offender program is such a high profile issue, and, quite frankly, the other reason is that sex offenders are going to get out of prison anyway. so we -- we are doing our best to rehabilitate them. because it is relatively new, we don't have statistics as far as recidivism rate, but we do know that we're giving them the tools to survive withou...

Decorating is kind of profile issue going forward. the problem with these cases often is that it's only looking backwards after the events that you can start to put together the circumstantial evidence that suggests maybe this guy was dead ending. maybe this guy had no plan to be with us any longer after he did what he did. such a difficult issue here because isolating people that are even threatening often there's a huge number of people just make threats and don't carry them out. >> right. >> and then a subset of people that just act. and that's one of your issues. sometimes the most lethal ...