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Private health care system on just about every metric. not just better outcomes, but higher satisfaction rates among their patients. privatizing the va, i'm telling you is a sleeper issue for the 2016 campaign. the republican candidates are lining up in support. and the democrats and supporters of the va, do not appear to have any strategy to respond to what is happening on the right. there is a concerted but as yet low profile push from the right right now to kill the va. are we at risk of losing it? the va secretary joins us next.

When they find themselves pushing on this issue, they're pushing on an open door in part because it's a door they opened themselves. the va is in such bad shape, none of the defenders feels like they can stand up for the status quo, even though, and this is key, the va health care system gets better ratings than the private health care system on just about every metric. not just better outcomes, but higher satisfaction rates among their patients. privatizing the va, i'm telling you, is a sleeper issue for the 2016 campaign. the republican candidates are lining up in support. and the democrats ...

The va is in such bad shape, none of the defenders feels like they can stand up for the status quo, even though and this is key, the va health care system gets better ratings than the private health care system on just about every metric. not just better outcomes but higher satisfaction rates among their patients. privatizing the va i'm telling you is a sleeper issue for the 2016 campaign. the republican candidates are lining up in support. and the democrats and supporters of the va do not appear to have any strategy to respond to what is happening on the right. there is a concerted but as yet...

i want to bring in mark preston to talk about with what all of this means. i guess in a way mark, we knew that things were partisan. that's not surprising. but if you look at how pew researchers measure this, 48 different ways of measuring how we feel about politics over the years, and they find that we're more divided than ever. almost double over the past 25 years. why? >> you know suzanne, talk about a comprehensive study that pew has done now, you know, there's a lot of reasons. and what's interesting is that it shows that not only are we more divided politically but also seeing ...