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If on the other hand you've had a negative experience with the police or you have family members who have had negative experiences with the police your position may be indeed, different. i think even in new york in those parts of the city where you have had high levels historically of stop and frisk, the police department is not as popular as they are in the areas where the levels of stop and frisk may be much lower. so we are all what our experiences are. it's interesting to have a discussion about racism. but the driving while black phenomenon and the disparity reported by numbers and inform...

Comprehensive antiracial profiling law as one of the elements that could happen on a national scale. tell us about this. >> well twe think it is time fo a national antiracial profiling law which would prohibit profiling on race color religion national origin gender orientation and the like. because we need to be proactive in how we address i think the concerns that so many of us have arising out of these incidents. and a national antirarnl profiling law we think is a step. now the justice department just prommal ga ama amal -- promulga. but it doesn't cover state and local law enforcement. and...

The tea party element in every state tends to be the most energized part of it. i mean, that's one of the things that people who self-identify as tea party members, those are the ones that are the most enthusiastic and she has their backing. >> let's talk about arizona, the department of justice going after arizona for the tough new immigration law. you have to wonder, too, if the obama administration feels like a lot is at stake and its continued pursuit of the law, might that pursuit potentially backfire especially as we talk about november? >> well, if you are looking at the pure politics o...

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