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>> well, so far it does because the russian authorities haven't released any information about why they arrested mr. whelan. we've seen this before. remember when putin met with donald trump in helsinki, right before then mr. mueller had indicted 13 russian intelligence officers. and so putin came to helsinki with this crazy scheme that a dozen americans had also committed crimes against the russian government. i know because i was on that list. and that's what it feels like until the russian government gives us an alternative way to understand this event. >> well, ned price, you're more famil...

Claiming is a spy, does it from a profiling standpoint, does it fit what you might expect to see in a spy? >> the profile here, steve, fits the theory you were articulating before, a quid pro quo for maria butina. and i say that because the russians by arresting this individual, a businessman who was based in michigan, are implicitly claiming that he was an intelligence official for the u.s. government working under what's known as non-official cover. they're claiming he was a noc. that is highly implausible if not impossible to my mind for two primary reasons. one, this individual is a vetera...

Am. just looking at the profile of what we know about this individual who the russians are claiming is a spy, does it from a profiling standpoint, does it fit what you might expect to see in a spy? >> the profile here, steve, fits the theory you were articulating before, a quid pro quo for maria butina. and i say that because the russians by arresting this individual, a businessman who was based in michigan, are implicitly claiming that he was an intelligence official for the u.s. government working under what's known as non-official cover. they're claiming he was a noc. that is highly implazi...

Set four different explosive devices and get out, when you see that many threats of that many devices from a profiling standpoint, you have to start thinking more on the side of a hoax as opposed to a real type of threat. and, chris, when you look at the four targets that have been named, two admin buildings, a dorm and a classroom building where final exams are going on, again, you have to think the primary target is likely that classroom building. the other three may very well be red herrings that are thrown in to try to make the situation sounding more serious. a quick example, chris, in ne...

By going in and just shooting your mother, even if it were in a school, that doesn't get the attention that this gets because we have so many school children, innocent victims, who have been killed, and i think that that makes him maybe feel like he's special. >> let's go back. i don't want to get beyond the facts, but here is a guy, 28 people dead right now, another scene, we don't know what that's about. his father is still alive. his mother is teaching kids kindergarten, k to 4 as we say. he goes in during the class day. he apparently shoots a bunch of the administrators of the school on hi...