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Presence at the border not to stop any of their nefarious actions, not to stop their profit model or what they're doing to the lives of these people, but just enough of an incentive mechanism for them to charge exorbitant fees and what they do to take it out of the lives of these people. it's tragic that we continue to have people in the white house that just turn a blind eye to what's going on from the human toll and from a national security stand point. jon: of course, president biden was very critical of then-president trump for his border policies. in the last year of the trump administrat...

Worse place than back in 2020. >> well, i don't know. i have been going to about a year since they fired me. >> i am in a better place so that's good. >> yes, what people have to bare in mind whether you are watching television news or consuming cbs morning news on in platforms is what's the profit model and how do people want you to receive this. >> what's the designer outcome for you and a problem that americans have today is people don't want to hear things, they don't want to hear. >> if you say something like joe biden is going to win arizona. >> if you say something that makes people ups...

Not defending him. he is not a racist. you may disagree with his policies, but he is not a racist. >> katie, we can't let cnn get away with this because this wasn't figurative language. this was literal language that they always foment when they get the chance. you think this network would have learned a lesson about creating racial conflict. the any opportunity that they can find, they are going to gin it up for clicks and i guess that is their profit model. race war. >> they want to try to scare people into his accepting their agenda. leaving the party drugs and going over to the republican ...

They were happy when there was just one pole. conventional, agreeable wisdom. now you can't have one agreeable pending. you could have two or three or 100. >> kat: they use a lot of science words, like scientists oftentimes do. to explain some thing that we all understand already. except i think it's kind of already sort of happened. things that aren't political at all. we are so polarized that we get to this point it will make it political. what happened with covid? it's a virus and it's completely politicized, polarized, two sides. so i think you can use science words but it doesn't mean tha...

Just one pole. conventional, agreeable wisdom. now you can't have one agreeable pending. you could have two or three or 100. >> kat: they use a lot of science words, like scientists oftentimes do. to explain some thing that we all understand already. except i think it's kind of already sort of happened. things that aren't political at all. we are so polarized that we get to this point it will make it political. what happened with covid? it's a virus and it's completely politicized, polarized, two sides. so i think you can use science words but it doesn't mean that you're not dumb. >> greg: the...