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Be scaled back. and part of that is substantial cuts at the epa, other agencies but i am hoping and i think he is beginning a useful conversation about what is the appropriate role in the federal government. and you see the administration seemingly getting beat up in the media about meals on wheels. >> paul: not seemingly, actually. >> i would hope that this would for some, discussion of if a program cannot gain support in the communities where it operates, may be that is telling us something. maybe church food pantries, local food banks, people, other groups that take care of shut-ins do the ...

Be scaled back. and part of that is substantial cuts at the epa, other agencies but i am hoping and i think he is beginning a useful conversation about what is the appropriate role in the federal government. and you see the administration seemingly getting beat up in the media about meals on wheels. >> paul: not seemingly, actually. >> i would hope that this would for some, discussion of if a program cannot gain support in the communities where it operates, may be that is telling us something. maybe church food pantries, local food banks, people, other groups that take care of shut-ins do the ...