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The bill? everyone else's attacks going up or just the cadillac plans -- else's taxes going up or just the cadillac plans? >> no everybody. when they say they have a revenue neutral billet me tell you how that game is played here in washington common sense of the midwest would not justify this you have tax increases right now but you don't have this program go into effect until 2014. you have 10 years of taxes. five or six years of expenditure. you can balance almost anything that way that's at game pheublgs an that are behind this -- gimmicks that are behind this bill. if you do like the budg...

The bill? everyone else's attacks going up or just the cadillac plans -- else's taxes going up or just the cadillac plans? >> no everybody. when they say they have a revenue neutral billet me tell you how that game is played here in washington common sense of the midwest would not justify this you have tax increases right now but you don't have this program go into effect until 2014. you have 10 years of taxes. five or six years of expenditure. you can balance almost anything that way that's at game pheublgs an that are behind this -- gimmicks that are behind this bill. if you do like the budg...