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>> you will say -- >> i don't know what world you lived in before where people never lost coverage ever. what world did you live in? people lost coverage if they developed he cbo says -- >> now they will have coverage. >> the cbo says under obama care, 30 million americans remain uninsured. >> those are the undocumented immigrants. >> 30 million americans. >> yes -- sean. if your complaint is the law doesn't insure more, i would be happy to work with you. >> katie, last word. >> this is the point. obama care was sold on the idea to get 45 million uninsured people in this country insured. it wa...

Require patients -- makes me laugh, i can hardly say it. it will require patients to be implanted with microchips. the answer is no. >> that's right, it's laughable, it's hard to believe that anyone would credit this, but this has been repeated literally thousands of times in web blogs. e-mails, there's nothing to it. someone misinterpreted something which would have required setting up a national registry of implantable devices like pacemakers. >> and not a microchip for all of us. >> no, nothing like that. >> one of the other outrageous question is it cuts benefits for military families and ...

Parole board, it's over for you? >> even if -- even if we thought that was just thing to do, and i would argue that it isn't necessarily, because i think that everyone should be judged as an individual and not as a member of a class, even if the class that they belong to is convicted felon. even if it was a just thing to do, we're not capable of doing it because of the problem of prison overcrowding. look at what's going on in california. they've been having a prolonged court battle because the prisons are horribly overcrowded. conditions are horribly inhumane and they've been ordered to relea...

My god, we'd have a nation of pension millionaires. >> diane, what do you think? >> i happen to be more optimistic about social security and we should preserve the public assurance aspect of the program as michael mentioned. the program isn't broken, you know. the program is just going to start costing us money on that. the fact that the trust fund will run out and only be able to pay 75% of benefits, that doesn't mean we can only pay 75% of benefits. we could choose to pay 100% of the benefits. >> but you have to get that money from some point. >> right. >> you make an interesting point. it's...

Watch the show, they will understand why eliot spitzer belongs on cnn and might i add, his co-host kathleen parker, pulitzer-prize winning conservative column cyst going to be an equal reason to watch every night. >> does it concern you a sizable number within cnn at various levels disagree with this decision? >> it doesn't surprise me. it's an innately controversial decision. i mean, no doubt about it. we're an organization of 4,000 people. there's going to be a range of points of view about it. i have been happy to talk to anybody who wants to discuss the decision, and i think at the end of ...