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That would mean there would be not only no more private insurers but no more affordable care act. joining me now is act. joining me is elizabeth rosenthal. elizabeth, thank you for being with us. i'm trying to make this clear. i hope i didn't confuse things more than was already confused. but if in 2020 medicare for all gets enacted what would that mean for people who are on a medicare advantage plan? >> well, you know, part of the problem is that the candidates have not been terribly clear. i liked that this was all reduced -- or i was amused that it was all reduced to raising your hand. it r...

So everybody, all the doctors take the payment because the payment is made either by a central organization or by private insurers. are we creating a false construct here where we're saying to people well, we can't do this because you're going to lose your specific type of insurance? you've heard it referred to for union members, referred to for employees with private insurance. >> you know, to some extent we are, and to some extent the candidates often speak out of both sides of their mouth about this. i mean, a lot of co-sponsors of the medicare for all bills, in congress, are on the debate ...

I am not surprised that the candidates have decided to say yes, i will talk to the book club because these are highly motivated voters. >> chris jansing, thank you. >> healthcare is very important and very confusing. i am going to talk the difference between medicare and medicare advantage and what would happen to those plans for medicare for all if were enacted. you are watching "velshi & ruhle," live on msnbc. d. you are watching "velshi & ruhle," live on msnbc. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. nice! but uh, what's up with your partner? oh! we ...

Happens to not be as good you can choose medicare, which hey, warts and all, it's a very popular program. when i speak to people in their 50s and their 60s they often talk about the promised land of medicare. and, you know, sure, there are some surprise costs. but, you know, basically most doctors and hospitals take it. and i think where we are in american health care right now people are generally really, really frustrated. now, i think the candidates that won't go there are worried, not so much about -- maybe a little bit about pissing some of the patients who have good insurance but also th...