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>> it's a good question in this sense. we didn't get what barack obama wanted. we got a program put together by special interests and nobody can understand or explain because special interest legislation. >> john: yes, sir. >> i'm a physician in new york. each of you know much about the v.a. health system? >> yes, it's a system run by the government. it does certain things pretty well. especially things it grades itself on and electronic medical records and but other things are very poorly which is why you see those newspaper articles, about vets that have psychological problems and doctors th...

Everybody be happy act. >> it's a good question in this sense. we didn't get what barack obama wanted. we got a program put together by special interests and nobody can understand or explain because special interest legislation. >> john: yes, sir. >> i'm a physician in new york. each of you know much about the v.a. health system? >> yes, it's a system run by the government. it does certain things pretty well. especially things it grades itself on and electronic medical records and but other things are very poorly which is why you see those newspaper articles, about vets that have psychological...

Though. that was all the big ruse, apparently. martha: those people remain anonymous until they suddenly aren't in school! until they suddenly decide to retire early! maybe they won't, maybe they'll stick around. bill the new lottery winners, they would have to work and fork over even more cash to uncle sam if there is a program put in place. the president is talking about this today, the buffet rule, hitting the road to push for what has become known as the warren buffet rule, that plan named for the billionaire investor, famously complaining that he pays less income tax than middle class wor...

Program put, quote, an unnecessary interface between doctors and their patients. dr. marc siegel, fox news medical a-teamer. dr. siegel. good to see you. >> good to see you. gregg: i read your column. excellent. you say the system is broken hurting both doctors and patients. how so? >> gregg, it is always cumbersome. we doctors always face potential 27% cuts. we can't practice. more and more elderly coming in with more and more complex problems. it is harder and harder for us to take care of them. though we love to take care of them. on the shelves there is less and less products you can buy. ...

Business and see vent wally bailed out the program with the taxpayer money. aren't you against the same thing as you rail about. >> the second site is wed that that program put in place and the state did not bail out. those programs worked as they were toed to work. you will have some that fell. i want to go back and talk about just a second the issue where we had a big back and forth about whether newt was involved in untoward activity or not. the issue we ought to be talking about on this stage is how you overhaul washington, d.c. and the idea you can't del the difference between lobbying or...