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With you, man? >> i'll tell you something, they don't pay me enough to deal with animals like this! the first thing they see is a white face and all they want to do is do him in. >> listen to me, it was a white finger that pulled the trigger, not a black one, it was a white! >> it set a trend. the idea that the audience can accept their characters being deeply flawed even though they're wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> no biting! >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate. made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and...

Not a black one, it was a white! >> it set a trend. the idea that the audience can accept their characters being deeply flawed even though they're wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> no biting! >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate. made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> 21 nominations. and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us on the map, literally. that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about sho...

And i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> we got 21 nominations, and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us on the map, literally. that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about shows like "hill street" and "st. elsewhere," what the american public wants is a cheeseburger, and what you're trying to give them is a french delicacy. and he said, your job is to keep shoving it down their throat until after a while they'll say, that's doesn't taste bad. and maybe they'll even order it the...

Had watched television passively. and the one thing i think we did set out to be were provocateurs. >> you want an action report? you fill it out. >> what the hell is the matter with you, man? >> i'll tell you something, they don't pay me enough to deal with animals like this! the first thing they see is a white face and all they want to do is do him in. >> listen to me, it was a white finger that pulled the trigger, not a black one, it was a white! >> it set a trend. the idea that the audience can accept their characters being deeply flawed even though they're wearing this uniform. i thought ...

Well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues". >> we got 21 nominations and we went on to win 8 emmys and it put us on the map, literally. and that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about shows like "hill street" and "st. elsewhere," what the american public wants is a cheeseburger and what you're trying to give them is a french delicacy. he said, your job is to keep shoving it down their throat until after a while they'll say, that doesn't taste bad and maybe even order it themselves when they go to the restaurant. >> ni...