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White face and they want -- >> listen to me, it was a white finger that pulled the trigger, not a black one, it was a white! >> it set a trend. the audience can accept characters being deeply flawed even though they are wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> no biting! >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate. made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> 21 nominations. and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us on the map, literally. that's when people finally checked us out...

Made you participate, made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> we got 21 nominations, and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us on the map literally, and that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about shows like "hill street" and "st. elsewhere," what the american people want is a cheeseburger. what you are trying to give them is a french delicacy. and he said, your job is to keep shoving it down their throat until after a while, they'll say, that doesn't ta...

Went on to win eight emmys and it put us on the map literally and that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say about shows like hill street and st. elsewhere, what the american public wants is a cheese burger and what you're trying to give them is a french delicacy. your job is to keep shoving it down their throat until after a while they'll say that doesn't taste bad and maybe even order it themselves when they go to the restaurant. >> the success of "hill street blues" is a critical phenomenon, influenced everything that came after and of...

>> it set a trend. the audience can accept characters being deeply flawed even though they are wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate, made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> we got 21 nominations, and we went on to win eight emmys. it put us on the map literally, and that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about shows like "hill street" and "st. elsewhere," what the amer...

That the audience can accept its characters being deeply flawed, even though they are wearing this uniform. i thought that was important to finally get across. >> don't do that. no biting. >> we wanted to make a show that made you participate, made you pay attention. and i think that worked pretty well. >> and the winner is -- >> "hill street blues." >> we got 21 nominations. and we went on to win eight emmys. and it put us on the map. literally. and that's when people finally checked us out. >> programming chief of one of the networks used to say to me about shows like "hill street" and "st. ...