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Discovery channel, there's this -- there's a sense over there that he may have been someone who was sending the pitches. and that for programming ideas of his that he wanted to see. and they were ignoring him. or they were declining those pitches. and there's some evidence that perhaps that's how his beef with discovery first began. >> interesting. well, summer planningis, news editor at tmd.com, thanks 0 for giving insight into this person. we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> what a complicated story that was yesterday. quite remarkable. they knew he existed. who thinks just because...

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