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Iowa. now he's seeing his support hemorrhaging. if he doesn't put in a good performance at this debate, it's not his supporters he's going to have to worry about, but his -- this programming reminder. be sure after all of this conversation to tune in for the republican debate. it's hosted by cnn. it's wednesday, september 16th and it started at 6:00 p.m. eastern. a new report questions the accuracy of intelligence of isis and other groups. also, staggering numbers of refugees fleeing syria continues to grow. 4600 crossed the border from gre greece into macedonia in less than 24 hours. if...

I think he and his campaign now believe they can win this race. >> all right. >> we'll see. >> my thanks to stephen moore for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >> this programming reminder. if you want to marry more from donald trump, you're going to want to catch chuck todd's exclusive interview on "meet the press" airing at 2:00 pm eastern here on msnbc and catch the full interview on msnbc.com.

A very important programming reminder, much more on this immigration and border debate at 10:00 a.m. with our new show hosted by jose diaz-balart. stick around for that. two southwest neighbors with a deep-rooted clash over immigration. the tdr 50 train is rolling into arizona and new mexico. and what can lebron james do for ohio? i'll ask the nominee vaiing to unseat the governor. first our tdr 50 soup of the day at mama louisa's in tucson, arizona, they're searching up italian wedding soup. we'll be right back, folks. avo: waves don't care what age you are. take them on the way you alway...

Clinton earned a lot money giving speeches but he started the clint be global initiative which one would argue has done an awful lot of good in the world. i still think there's a bit of refinement on that. why not come back and say, look, we didn't have a pot of money to come back to because we weren't born that way. >> which would have been a very good opportunity to connect with people. she was middle class, poor. >> and now we all have a copy of the book. so light reading, 600 pages, waver it is. >> pictures. >> a lot words. we'll read it. guys, we'll continue our conversations. thanks very...

The wait and see right now. i think they know full well that she is likely to run but they are there on the off chance that something were to happen. >> let's just say january 1 rolls around and hillary clinton comes out and says you know what? no. i don't want to run. what then? how many democrats do you think might actually jump in? will it be a sudden scramble or a slow process? >> well, it's the slow building all at once. there are lots of people meeting with governor omally. he is unlikely to capitalize on it unless hillary were to pull out. >> all right. thank you very much. >> my pleasu...