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Democrats afraid of big ideas. >> let's not just talk about plans that are written for press releases that will go nowhere else. >> identify heard some people here tonight, i wonder why you're democrats. you seem to think there's something wrong about using the instruments of government to help people. >> snap. >> i'm joined by jason johnson, politics editor for the root, darrick hamilton at ohio state and has advised several of these democrats running for president including on policy, sanders, warren harris and booker. ar zerlina maxwell director of progressive programming for sirius xm. nic...

You're saying there is a difference between what you're doing now and an impeachment inquiry, right? >> a lot of people believe we've been in an impeachment inquiry ever since we started looking into high crimes and misdemeanors in the context of the executive branch. other people think impeachment doesn't begin until you actually have articles of impeachment. i would say we're an impeachment investigation. >> we are now officially entering into an examination of whether or not to recommend the article of impeachment. we have crossed a threshold. >> some house democrats there changing their to...

In the way i didn't respond. >> are you going to be less polite then? >> i'm going to smile a lot. >> you said you're not going to be polite in the next debate? >> we'll see. >> oh, dramatic pause there. joining me senior director for progressive programming at sirs xm, zerlina maxwell and former aide elise jordan. what does a less polite joe biden look like? >> somebody who is ready to address some of the critiques that have been made about his record which i think are fair. and this current fight is really interesting. and i say, somebody who had to deal with the same critiques, as a staffer...

Least probable cause that donald trump committed high crimes and misdemeanors as the constitution calls them, worthy of an impeachment inquiry. joining me is ian bass and former white house counsel to president obama, and zerlina maxwell, senior director of progressive programming for siriusxm and an msnbc political analyst. let's just start zooming out for a second. what tomorrow means from a sort of both political and legal -- not in the narrow legal sense, but a rule of law sense, ian? >> today donald trump said that article 2 of the constitution gives him the power to do whatever he wants....

The initial interference. even in the most generous interpretation, none of that is defensible conduct. a less generous interpretation is that there is at the very least probable cause that donald trump committed high crimes and misdemeanors as the constitution calls them, worthy of an impeachment inquiry. joining me is ian bass and former white house counsel to president obama, and zerlina maxwell, senior director of progressive programming for siriusxm and an msnbc political analyst. let's just start zooming out for a second. what tomorrow means from a sort of both political and legal -- not...