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And have no public transportation. on top of that you have the problem we don't want to live together, blacks and whites and other ethnic groups. >> i had want to follow up with that. it's interesting to me the election of the first black president was the impetus to get you to think of that. i drew conflicting lessons. the general election, obama did relatively well for a democrat among white voters, better than a democrat since jimmy carter. there were some dynamics that emerged against hillary clinton. he really struggled with white voters in two places. one was app pa lasch cha and we're s...

Bely in 501 c 3s which are not only tax exempt but you actually get a charitable contribution tax deduction for contributing. alec, the american legislative exchange council is a 501 c 3 that they can contribute to. >> let me ask you if you would change your mind. if i told you 14 of the top 20 contributors and benefactors of these groups are democrat liberal progressive union groups. >> does not change my mind. not at all. >> coke brothers way down on the list. >> hold on. hold on. if you dig into the money that's involved, not the number of organization, it's a totally different story. >> no...

$1 billion each before november and still be broke at the end, right? >> right. >> possibly in debt. yeah. it does bring up the question. i mean, i'm kind of with steve. at the presidential level i think that you get to a saturation point. if you're the president, you're the president. when you show up at a microphone people listen. there are two things that concern me. one is the lack of accountability in these adds. we've already seen several incredibly misleading at best ads put out there. there's very little accountability behind it. we've also seen studies that show these independent grou...