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Carl, which created the headlines, which includes this from the daily beast. trump's lawyer shameful cross examination of e. jean carroll. slight magazine said, trump's lawyer did him no favors on thursday. newsweek, trump's attorney just blew carols rape case. do you agree with these takes. do you call his offense, and the way he's going about his questioning's retro, but do you agree with these headlines? >> look, alex, we are not the jury, right? the new york -- journalist cuddling the story is not the jury pool. if we were, i might agree with those assessments, but instead, and the jury bo...

They'll look at is either who you seem to be against or who hates you and reverse engineer a label from there. the left is my home, i have a lot of progressive views, but when i criticize the left, people get upset at me, and i think keys see that happening, and they think, oh, they're mad at her, so she must be one of us. howard: to they want you to apologize or sort of repeat the company line, people on the left in. >> at this point, i don't think so with. [laughter] i can't remember the last time i was expected to apologize. that's true, yeah. howard: okay. you write in a piece that defendi...

To fight the things that trump is going to do to the people of this country. and the world. and we need young people, and women, and others who are going to really be the voice of this party. not the same old, same old -- clearly people wanted change. i think everybody's admitted that and clearly bernie sanders represented that. and you know, i was -- i was at the demonstration yesterday and there were trump people there on the sidewalk. and i talked to them and i said, we have considered voting -- would you have considered voting for bernie sanders? they said yes, they were just mad at the sy...

And we need young people and women and others who are going to really be the voice of this party. not the same old, same old. clearly, people wanted change. i think everybody's admitted that. and clearly bernie sanders represented that. and i was at the demonstration yesterday and there were trump people there on the sidewalk. and i went over and talked to them and i said, would you have considered voting for bernie sanders? they said yes, they were just mad at the system. >> well, let me ask you this, that's the big question, what do democrats do going forward, organizationally, do they doubl...

fight, because i have been on the front lines. >> he says he was a severely conservative republican governor of massachusetts, and he also said he knows conservativism, because he lived wit, and vowed to repeal president obama's health care act, and to agree or disagree, it is to use his own word severely conservative, and to be honest, it does not describe his time in massachusetts as governor and how he himself was describing himself when he ran for the job. this is mitt romney in 2002 when he was running for governor. >> people realize i'm not a partisan republican, but moderate a...