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So it's not new that sanders and warren would be battling for the progressive vote, but it is new that we see a move from warren. so let's bring in harry enten to help us. before we get into the numbers because that matters, this biden thing here. it was interesting to me to hear bernie sanders say, you know what, i'm not giving him a pass on it. he shouldn't have talked about those guys that way. he should still apologize. how big a deal is biden's processing of his past? >> look, we have seen a lot of attacks over joe biden's past and it hasn't moved the polling numbers. what a lot of these ...

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Establishment liberals, the new deal liberals who have an affection for the democratic party, whereas, bernie sanders' supporters are liberals disaffected from the party, don't like the party leadership but like his policies. i think that's one of the reasons bernie sanders is calling on the memory of fdr because i think he realized this is a group that elizabeth warren can win over with her policy proposals, and that's exactly what the polling looks like is happening right now. >> that's an interesting point about the message we're seeing from bernie sanders. hearing from sources in the biden...

They want to do a deal where they do criminal justice reform. fine, i'll take it. i have no problem with that bipartisanship but if they want more tax cuts for the rich, i don't want a corporate democrat that's going to help them do that because it's bad on policy but also bad on politics. the country is incredibly progressive. 76% of the country says raise taxes on the rich. don't lower them. so we should pick someone three quarters of the country agrees with. >> i would argue with you that if you want a progressive agenda you should be aiming your attacks not at joe biden but elizabeth warre...

So as long as sanders and warren are dividing the progressive vote, joe biden has a niche all to himself. your problem is not joe biden but people that support joe biden, their vote is going to go to pete or their vote is going to go to kamala harris. bernie sanders is not their second option. >> we have to do this conversation in phases. i'm loving having cenk and i'm loving having you. come back in and let's see who is more happy with where things are. cenk, thank you. anna as always, thank you. good luck with that. there's still the prospect of impeachment that could up end the election. wh...