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In moscow. i don't think that this merits a response in and of itself, but the fact that the white house has been silent on this does nothing but project weakness. >> you called it very strong. is it enough of a response in and of itself if the president does, in fact, sign it? >> i think it's a good start. with sanctions, always, not just about the congressional legislation, it's about how the executive branch will enforce it. president trump needs to enforce the sanctions bill very vigorously for it to be a strong enough response to russia's hacking of the 2016 election. >> i have to get you...

Calling him crazy. >> he sounds almost -- what's the right word? >> sounds like perhaps he was trying to identify with him in some way. there is this part about taking over the family business. of course, i'll take trump's business any day over that dynasty. but i think he does in this conversation say this about kim jong-un and what i think is interesting about korea is that -- >> well, i would say to her point before about the sort of bl bluster, obama did project weakness and that what was needed was a leader who would act more tough. so much of diplomacy is about the -- your words and the ...

"washington post." more tourists and architects of world affairs. it $isn't that obama projects a weakness, it's that he doesn't project anything. >> i disagree. he does project weakness. this is a man who has rattled a tin saber time and time again. he's in east asia now, he is have iting our allies who are very worried we won't honor our treaty commitments. people may say why does ukraine matter? the fate of ukraine and what putin is allowed to get away with will affect the future of the eurasian land mass. and it could lead to a catastrophic military conflict.

Foreigners in south korea, you are potentially not safe, they're trying to discourage trade and investment, business, tourism, really south korea's lifeline to the outside world. and that ought to irritate south koreans plenty because it is a direct interfear recognize in their well-being. irritate the population and irritate the government. what that does i think ratchet up tensions between the north and the south so if the north does try a provocation with south korea, i think this time there will be retaliation. gregg: in the event of an overt act by pongyang, as we understand it the obama ...

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