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Opportunity for hobbs. what do you think about the whole kerfuffle? >> michael it won't surprise you. this is not a goody look to say you're not going to debate your opponent. carrie lake has samantha. atlanta has a huge piece. she is trump's leading lady. she needs to be confronted. she needs to be exposed. she needs to be debated. you need to call at the craziness and the extremism of the support for insurrectionists and democratic policies. you don't run away from that. it does not project -- a projects weakness. it is disappointing. >> it. is on so many. levels if you thought we were leavi...

Ago when president xies and vladimir putin and the rest of us in this world saw a feckless and a reckless commander in chief r and president joe biden withdrawingan from afghanistan n such a chaotic, deadly way, 13 serviceuc members lost, ignoring the advice of his generals we all saw, including putin. we allll saw women and children running across that tarmac. the man hanging fromarma a wingf the plane and turning over control of afghanistan to the taliban. and so when an american president projects weakness, people, property, peace, and prosperity are endangered. and that's what we all sawpe...

Situation where biden fumbles and bumbles his way through a phone call, again, projects weakness at a time when we need strength. is he going to possibly make it even more dangerous and tenuous of a situation in the ukraine because, as we saw when we gave intelligence to china, they turned around and gave that intelligence to russia. they are not our friends. they are not our allies. they are looking for global domination. this is just going to be another way for them to see a weak leader here in the united states. >> todd: frightening times, congresswoman. absolutely frightening times it does...

Different somehow. what do we change so that, what we're saying, and what we're doing is, is a show of force rather than the opposite? >> well, it's a lot of little things i think. i think that if obama says, something like, you know, for me, the use of chemical weapons in syria is a red line, and then, there's use of chemical weapons and nothing happens, that projects weakness. that projects, you know, that means that, you know, the u.s. can talk. it doesn't walk. jenna: you're saying the details matter? they're not overlooked. benny, great to have you. >> thank you very much. jenna: apprecia...

To --. martha: fitted for black and white shirts. >> yes, they do need to be fitted for that. martha: thank you very much. great to have you with us. nice to speak with you. >> nice to be with you. bill: somebody who is not bill walton, famous player for the ucla. these replacement refs make the games look exciting like a buffalo wild wings comercial the spot where they throw the flag and sprinkler system comes up and they go into overtime. got that to look forward to on sunday. blistering speech from republican vp paul ryan, slamming the president's policies and comparing the recent anti-amer...