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Dealing with north korea? is it going to work if the united states is genuinely pulling back? could it enforce a deal like that? >> i don't know. the prior deals the deal bill clinton made wasn't enforced and bush -- the u.s. doesn't seem to have anymore a global strategy and when you link north korea and iran and pakistan which we're going to talk about, the proliferation problems will require a global strategy. i agree with richard that we need to lead. we haven't been leading for a long time. i don't blame this all on president trump. at least he is calling attention or did first thing in h...

Clinton made wasn't enforced and then bush 43 be a gre gated that deal which i think was another mistake. the u.s. doesn't seem to have anymore a global strategy. when you link north korea and iran and pakistan, which i know we're going to talk about, the proliferation problems there require a global strategy. i agree with richard that we need to lead. we haven't been leading for a long time. i don't blame this all on president trump. all i was saying is at least he's calling attention or did first thing in his presidency to what is the most urgent proliferation problem. >> and he's gotten som...

Did since 9/11 of calling behind what goes over there doesn't matter to us. it matters a lot if there are terrorist bases and there are more now than before. and major proliferation problems and nuclear weapons. >> that puts at strain on our u.s. military that is unbelievable and our treasury. 17 trillion in debt. >> if we had a presence over there and been able to continue to the policies that we put in place and if we had been able to work to keep and establish governments that are stable and willing to defend their own sovereignty turf we would be better. now our adversaris no longer fear u...

Taliban took control in afghanistan. >> i think they are going to do that again. >> in addition to hijackers who came in here with airline tickets and box cutter. >> do that again? sit back and worry about it. >> i'm asking you if we are withdrawing do it again as it seems like think they will. >> very real danger of that. >> get out of it. >> what do you get out of it, if you withdraw and let that happen again, bill, we don't have the choice anymore, if we ever did, since certainly since 9/11 crawling back behind our orgses and saying what goes over there doesn't matter to us. matters a hell ...

>> but the last time the taliban took control in afghanistan. >> i think they are going to do that again. >> in addition to hijackers who came in here with airline tickets and box cutter. >> do that again? sit back and worry about it. >> i'm asking you if we are withdrawing do it again as it seems like think they will. >> very real danger of that. >> get out of it. >> what do you get out of it, if you withdraw and let that happen again, bill, we don't have the choice anymore, if we ever did, since certainly since 9/11 crawling back behind our orgses and saying what goes over there doesn't matt...