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Two prong test. not lying toys, not lying to himself. he fails both. >> i do believe people talk as if this fever that we're going through is going to last. i don't believe it will. i believe at the end of the day it will be his inability to tell the truth to the american people and himself that will bring him down. >> do you know, joe, we have a certain miniature narrative you presented about what he said and what's true. that's the larger problem the country has to fight. the narrative presented about the supreme court, what's happening in the last 50 years of social justice, what's going on...

H.w. bush intelligence center? >> good lord. >> you know the quotation on the wall out there which is in the gospel of john. you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. >> right. >> you know, not to be overly grand at this hour of the day, but there's an enormous amount of salience to that. presidents historically get in trouble when they think they can put one past the broad populous. if you -- president trump johnson in vietnam. president nixon in nearly everything. and there was a great test really proposed during world war ii by churchill about how the british people or the ...

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