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It onto the set. >> outfront now, the sheriff for santa fe county. adan mendoza. and sheriff mendoza, i really appreciate your time tonight. i know the affidavit filed by one of your officers back on october 22nd was very clear. it states that dave hall -- halls grabbed one of the prop guns on a cart outside, yelled cold gun, handed it to alec baldwin. at this time, from everything you know given that halls' attorney now pointblank denying that happened, do you stand by that report? >> well, i think there was different statements that were put in affidavits for search warrants. those aren't al...

Colored wad at the end so they do different. the ammunition cannot be in the gun and you cannot just look at the gun and tell that it's loaded or unloaded. arthel: so what happened on rust, the set of rust which is horrible? does this warrant banning real guns altogether from movie and television productions, you know, using prop guns and couldn't that present other problems? you would also get rid of experts like yourself and potentially maybe compromise all levels of safety restrictions. >> well, by the number of accidents we've seen over the years which has been very few with weapons, the s...

She didn't get the resources that she needed from the production company. so ultimately, that's going to be a big question in this case -- was the production company negligent for setting this up for failure by not providing the adequately resources that they needed to make sure that this was going to be a safe shoot. >> that's why under those circumstances, too, the al lec baldwin name comes up, he was one of the producers. most experienced veteran armorers would say the actor is never responsible for checking things like prop guns, that would not be in their wheelhouse. but you're saying if ...

Somebody that i worked with before was just the catalyst for me coming forward to say, hey, look, there needs to be some changes in this industry. there needs to be some more safety protocols. and i understand there is a checks and balances with the firearms. but in my personal opinion, a lot of those are futile. an armorer who has been around guns their entire lives, who worked with prop guns, with real guns and with blank firing weapons can walk on to a set and show it to an assistant director on set, show them the barrel is clear, or that the gun is clear, you know, they may have never met ...

District attorney saying, oh, well, the lynchpin of this investigation is who brought the live ammunition on the set? i beg to differ with her. the focus of this investigation should be on what you just said is what happened on the chain of custody with the revolver that was handling it and who said what and why they failed to look to see whether there's live ammunition. that should be the focus of the investigation. >> martha: in a lot of situations they have a shield in front of the camera. the people in the line of fire with prop guns. it doesn't appear that that happened either. we'll lear...