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Their grip of fear on the people, on their opponent so as to not be challenged. from there they can consider whether or not they want to use at their disposal to strikeout side of afghanistan. >> dana, this equipment they have accumulated here doesn't make any difference, doesn't really? >> i hope not. i admire admiral kirby for coming on. i thank him for that. if what he says turns out to be true, great. but it's bizarre. you have these -- the taliban wants to live in the seventh century, but they want 21st century weaponry. why? what pete is a saying, there's a propaganda effect and a show o...

>> was she forced to say it, or has she begun to be converted by the revolutionary education her kidnappers have been giving her all these weeks? >> propaganda effect was almost hilarious. you know what i mean. it was amazing. no one expected that. >> we've had her 20 years, they've had her 60 days. and i don't believe that she's going to change her philosophy that quickly. >> it was a novel that was being told every day. part of it was a rag tag group of radicals and someone from american nobility. it was poverty, which she were showing, and great wealth. it was also about young people fighti...

As patricia hearst has hinted in previous messages, has she begun to be converted by the revolutionary education her kidnappers have been giving her all these weeks? >> propaganda effect was almost hilarious. you know what i mean? it was amazing. no one expected that. >> we've had her 20 years. they've had her 60 days. i don't believe that she's going to change her philosophies that quickly. >> it was a novel that was being told every day. part of it was a ragtag group of radicals and someone from american nobility. it was poverty, which they were showing, and great wealth. it was also about y...

Disputing the veracity of the e-mails that much, and yet, it was stolen allegedly illegally by the russians in order to rough up perceptions of one of the candidates. >> yes, exactly. and i am taking the intelligence leaders in our country like james clacker seriously. if they say that they have proof that the russians were behind the hacking of the democratic national committee, i think that's then a fact. so then, we have to look, you know, is this, as you say, is this a completely new thing? have the russians ever tried to interfere in our elections? well, to me, it seems pretty unare prece...

Infrastructure. someone who generated a lot of controversy. there was criticism from people saying why someone who is an american a convert from judaism would be a senior member senior leader of al qaeda. he was always a controversial figure. always unclear whether or not he was having the propaganda effect. it was interesting he managed to outlive even osama bin laden. very interesting to see that. it will be interesting to see whether or not there is direct connection to the hostages that were being held by al qaeda. >> what is interesting in the release that the press secretary gave moments...