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And this is very good for them in propaganda terms. putting themes as part of the conversation as a broady push back. they decimated a car bomb, in the southwest of yemen to try to stop the advance there. they have taken territory. we heard they are now in control of yemen's third largest airport to the southeast there. the danger will be because we have seep in iraq and syria, the way they are in a broader alicense. and they will try to get a place on the table within those groups pushing back. that is the concern that we're hearing medical examinered in multiple security agents right now.

Want that, you've got to embrace somebody who seems to have embraced torture, which democrats aren't -- >> laura: she didn't design the program. >> well, laura. i have to throw the challenge flag. >> laura: jeff is coming in on us with the challenge flag. >> i've got to throw that challenge flag, rosa. torture is a propaganda word. that's a propaganda and it's chosen to evoke an emotional response. it's chosen to conjure up images of putting people on the rack or cutting off fingers or limbs. let's be accurate. let's not be propaganda. if you train your people at georgetown to use propaganda t...