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Somebody who seems to have embraced torture. >> laura: she didn't design the program. >> i have to pose the challenge flag. >> laura: jeff is coming in on this. >> i got to throw the challenge flag there, rosa. torture is a propaganda word. that is a propaganda word and it's chosen to evoke an emotional response. it's chosen to conjure up images of people on the rack or cutting off fingers or limbs. >> it's also international laws. >> you train your people too use propaganda terms, i don't allow my students to use loaded language like that. it's not the rack, it's not cutting people's fingers ...

>> laura: she is eminently qualified. to be cia director by any fair indication or examination of her background. what she feels as a person is frankly not relevant to her job as a person in charge of the thailand black site. her feelings. what is that mean, your feelings. it such a democrat, lib way. what are your feelings? rosa has to get back in. mike, hold on. rosa first. >> this is not my propaganda word. there's real irony here. it's funny to me however is talk about the world war ii generation is the greatest generation, so after world war ii when we faced an absolutely existential thre...

Want that, you've got to embrace somebody who seems to have embraced torture, which democrats aren't -- >> laura: she didn't design the program. >> well, laura. i have to throw the challenge flag. >> laura: jeff is coming in on us with the challenge flag. >> i've got to throw that challenge flag, rosa. torture is a propaganda word. that's a propaganda and it's chosen to evoke an emotional response. it's chosen to conjure up images of putting people on the rack or cutting off fingers or limbs. let's be accurate. let's not be propaganda. if you train your people at georgetown to use propaganda t...

>> laura: she's eminently qualified to be cia director by any fair indication or examination ofin her background. what she feels as a person is frankly not relevant to her job as a person in charge of the thailand black site. her feelings, that's such a democratic lib way, your feelings. rosa has to get back in. >> this is not my propaganda word. there's a real irony, funny how we talk about the world war ii generation as the greatest generation. when we faced the threat, we prosecuted japanese soldiers for water boarding u.s. soldiers and we called it torture then, the same we have called it ...