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That commentators like me have always had is that we're not inside putin's mind and we don't really know what his end state that he's aiming for actually is. i suspect that the consensus is that he's now going to concentrate and trying to annex the donbas area and then, if he feels that he has sufficient combat power and political will, he might try and head towards moldova, to, you know, sort of quote liberate transnistria. i don't think they have the combat power or the resources to do both of those. so, i think -- it's donbas for the moment and see what happens. >> yeah, i mean, of course, ...

That the russian army is doing quite badly in this war so far compared to their initial objectives. on the other hand, you know, the damage done to ukraine is absolutely massive. >> yeah. and we, of course, have seen right around, right across ukraine, those missile attacks, but the fear is from those i've been speaking to, that putin could leverage the symbolic kind of significance of this date, use it as a propaganda value to mobilize his forces and increase hostilities. how real is this? >> it's still possible that putin could mobilize more t troops, as i said, they are going to continue bo...

De-nazification of ukraine. this is their main goal and we've heard this is a special military operation. by declaring it officially a war, what president putin could potentially be doing is adding, creating more propaganda value to the war. and in turn, what officials tell us it could mean mobilization of forces and indeed escalation of hostility. that's the real fear on the ground. i can tell you from people i've been speaking to, they're telling me, russian generals are worried, or under pressure, i should say to create some sort of win to hand putin some sort of victory for that day. somet...

Propaganda value, give more significance to this state. but it doesn't end there. have a listen to the u.s. ambassador to the ose, what he had to say. >> according to the most recent reports, we believe that russia will try to annex the donetsk people's republic and luhansk people's republic in quotes so called to russia. the reports state that russia has planned to year referendum russia sometime in mid may and that moscow has a similar plan for herkherson. >> a huge concern of course, trying to create that independence referendum of kherson in the last few weeks. and so that is on the battle...

Translation: ukraine - is defended by our people, all our people, those who stop the advance of endless columns of russian equipment, those who rebuff constant attacks in donbas, those who have shown that russian ships can go only to the bottom. the moskva already appears on stamps as a symbol of ukrainian defiance. it has become a popular resistance image after ukrainian soldiers on a black sea island refused to surrender and told the ship firmly to go away. now its propaganda value is even greater. translation: it is a symbol of this war for people - who are suffering and fighting in the bat...