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Maybe they do have the votes and the deal? >> it feels like -- well, they've been working on this. while the rest of the country was thinking this was that in the water, they have been negotiating. that's what he keeps saying, we are negotiating. the answer is, $900 billion. that's why they have to get health care done. they have to pay for the tax cuts, and these tax cuts, taking the rates down, cutting taxes for most americans as well as corporate tax coming down, emboldened businesses to actually cut spending and hire people and invest in their businesses. so because health care, taking awa...

And provide substantial relief to the middle-class. >> joining the panel, wall street journal columnist and deputy editor dan hettinger, columnist and manhattan senior fellow jason riley and columnist, mary, 51, 52 votes, not always sure they were going to get them, what turned the tide in the end? >> using a seasonal metaphor, you heard of the christmas tree, there were four or five senators who were holding out and i think mitch mcconnell very masterfully addressed concerns of each of them by giving them small presence to put under the tree or on the tree so you have susan collins, who gets ...