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Wild claims and accusations on what the client may or may not tell you. so certainly there would need to be to establish there's credibility and that comes down to what is the mental state at the time. do you believe that you're in fear of injury. as a result of that, do you act in a way that prevents that? you can certainly exceed what we call justification and the event that you use force is not proportion nit. if it's not, and you go beyobd that, it can be problematic too. she is going to busser her claims and that her mental state and it was needed to defend herself. based upon the amount ...

And did you about in those circumstances and was it proportion nit to the threat. finally if you look at the process wisconsin is only the state in the entire nation. i think that we will see more movement in this direction to have an independent outside agency that looks at and exams the shootings. now that law was passed as a result of other shootings and a community that felt that the police were too close. i should point out and i had some discussions with michael bell and that was the proponent on this law and there's some feelings that the police that are on this commission, is it really...