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Does pecker, which we'll get to in a second. what do you think will give the white house legal team more of a headache. one would think the "i" word. that's what trump says, he doesn't want to say impeachment, the "i" word. >> i think the potential of nonstop investigations and subpoenas will be more of a headache. >> you do? >> i think there's a lethal threat coming from the prosecution side from mueller, the southern district, the state guys here. from the possibility of the state as an escape hatch. in fact, the president does do extreme things such as pardons or firing. one thing the presi...

Would be concerned about that, i think, we have to look at broader picture, never in american history is the u.s. president really defamed a prosecutor in the midst of really high-profile case like this. we have to use president trump as president when makes statements and he's the target in many ways of investigation and so he's not acting presidential, he's not acting like the president, he's acting like somebody who is under scrutiny, the jury hears that there's going to be problem, issues earlier where the jurors may have been expose today external information, this judge will have a handl...

On this alan dershowitz, the author of the book "the case against impeaching trump." thank you for coming back. let's talk about this. there is a lot to go through and these jurors have been given a lot of information and documents, a lot of witnesses on the prosecution side. not so much on the defense. we'll get to that in a second. what does each side need to do in closing arguments today? >> i think the key question is whether or not trump's name will come up during the deliberations, during the instruction. the judge has tried hard to keep them out. the judge has essentially been siding wi...

Past, most often against the prosecution but against both sides at times. but the evidence still, at least the weight of the documentary evidence, seems pretty strong on the prosecution side. we'll wait to see what the defense does next week. >> yes, so now we're getting to the part of the case where in a very methodical if not tedious way, the prosecution is putting in evidence of all the bank fraud. they're putting in bank documents, loan documents, income statements, through bank witnesses. they're very credible. they're really just walking through, describing what their job was. but in the...

Military lawyers to help with the prosecution side. but there's been no assistance on the defense side. it's still the case, and efren can back me up on this, a few public defenders consult with the defendants, but when the defense starts handling it in court, it's one defender for 60 or 70 folks all entering guilty pleas. there just isn't enough in terms of resources. strangely enough, if the defendants themselves were willing to enter pleas of not guilty and take every case to trial, that could gum up the entire system. in a way, the prosecutors are lucky that the defendants in these cases a...