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We're trying to get rid of the guy on capitol hill, we'll march on your town to get attention, maybe you can talk to our mayor. >> katie: it's going to come down to better leadership, obviously, with the anti-police narrative. but also comes down to a massive cultural shicht the way they're prosecuted. chicagoans are terrorized by a handful of gang members running these communities. they continue to go through the prosecution system, they keep seeing the same people getting put into the system, prosecuted, then go to these judges who most of them are former public defenders and they let them o...

In this country and we hated the idea of families being separated. of course, that wasn't a new policy because that was a policy that we've had on the books for a couple of decades. the new policy that trump initiated was this zero tolerance policy where everybody who comes and crosses illegally will go through the prosecution system if they're not political asylee. the numbers you just went through, that's wildly popular. the combination of either sending people back to their homeland if they don't come to america legally or prosecuting them, you get near 60% of the american people say that's...

Border and cross illegally. then you go through the prosecution system. go to a port of entry, an embassy. they can go right to an embassy in mexico and go through the process quickly and apply to be a political asylum. do it the right way. >> just to be clear, what you're suggesting is that this policy of the that the administration decided on is a deterrent, which is something they hadn't admitted. it may very well be. be that as it may, i want to ask you one more thing. you're a political expert. you know communications very well. melania trump went down to the border yesterday to visit fir...

Integrity of our prosecution system and of our criminal justice system. it is drilled into every prosecutor who is working on a case that touches public figures not to take an action in the window before an election or in any way that could shape the election. this was so obvious that in 2008 george w. bush's attorney general, mike b wrote a memo to prosecutors at the department of justice saying, warning them against this. and in 2012, barack obama's attorney general, eric holder, simply took the same memo, put his name at the top and reissued it virtually verbatim. this is something that goe...

Conveniences to his feeding of feeling. >> this is the demagogue's trick of being the angriest guy in the world. ex kraeuclamation points and al this tweeting. there are hundreds of prosecutions that we have seen is already in general you have a 93% conviction rate in any federal prosecution system. and the rate is even higher when talking about the terrorism cases. >> you think what he is talking about is he is upset about the investigation on him. that's why it is a joke and a laughingstock. >> i'm not so sure. who cares about these courts. let's just kill them. in this case if the police ha...