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Joins us. i hate to come on with the big bluster of breaking news and say jack smith was breaking news what does that mean to a prosecutor because i'm sure your answer is of course he was there. >> exactly. he's leading the investigation. he naturally would be there for a meeting with lawyers for the principal target of that investigation. i don't see his personal presence as significant. the fact, though, that he's meeting with counsel to the former president suggests they're right at the very end, as andrew's tweet suggests. that there may have been a prosecutive decision. but they're just g...

>> i don't think we can have a set time line, yasmin. the reality is this will be looked at through several layers of supervisors inside the d.c. u.s. attorney's office. presumably they'll consult with folks at main justice. they may for all we know have made up their minds and be on a quick time line. but this could also take a longer amount of time as they gather evidence and make some of the other considerations that the federal principles of prosecution ask them to make before they make a prosecutive decision here. >> i want to get into those federal principles of prosecution in a moment, ...

Crystle balling the timeline is tough to do because my expectation is even the prosecutors themselves don't know exactly when the case will be ready. often and particularly in something complicated when you're trying to flip witnesses, you just can't tell. you have to let the investigation come to the point where you're ready to make a prosecutive decision, whether that's to prosecute or to let the matter go because you lack evidence. you know it when you get there. but really, you don't know it this far out. and, you know, the job of the investigation is to establish these basic questions, wh...

The agents liked him. he was very personable. i've dealt with him in myy capacity, but the judgment that he displayed and the rules that he broke when he made a prosecutive decision as the fbi director and then announced in great detail to the american public, instead of handing the investigation off to loretta lynch, who, if he thought was conflicted, could recuse herself and passed it down one notch was monumental bad judgment. i think a series of cascading events, that is what has drawn the fbi into politics. >> mark: let me ask you about that, because of the crime winds up in the county co...