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Downtown. you process them. if victim doesn't topght show up in court later, fine. but you get that person arrested you get that arrest on the record and police officer can testify to a lot of things that they witness anyway. so i think many cases you get a conviction without the testimony of the victim themselves. >> chris i have about 20 sendings parents in this highland case should they be held from a criminal stand point because they saw a lot didn't say a lot. >> i think there's some potential there. i'll put any former prosecutor hat on criminal negligence aiding abetting they knew this ...

Downtown. you process them. if victim doesn't topght show up in court later, fine. but you get that person arrested you get that arrest on the record and police officer can testify to a lot of things that they witness anyway. so i think many cases you get a conviction without the testimony of the victim themselves. >> chris i have about 20 sendings parents in this highland case should they be held from a criminal stand point because they saw a lot didn't say a lot. >> i think there's some potential there. i'll put any former prosecutor hat on criminal negligence aiding abetting they knew this ...

There was potentially overall organization or whether these were independent lines of effort. that's really one of our key focuses and so -- yeah? >> well, put on your prosecutor hat for me if you could for a moment. just excise that idea of putting forward fake, you know, slates of electors and attempting to submit them as real when they're literally fraudulent. should that be a prosecutable crime? should the prosecution look at that as a separate crime? >> i think the justice department should be investigating whether this was an act of fraud or attempted fraud absolutely. and similarly, i t...

♪ ♪ >> welcome back to "the big sunday show." the patriarch at the center of of the murdaugh murder mystery is now charged with more than 20 new criminal counts i accusing him of defrauding his former clients of millions of dollars. alex murdaugh first gained national attention when he found his wife and son murdered, a crime for which no arrests have been made and no suspects named. and since then he has amassed almost 50 criminal charges. this is the most bizarre thing i have ever heard. we talked about this case a while back, and i think my inclination is to go to you, sean, first, beca...

These are two separate sovereigns that can absolutely prosecute for the same offense. >> so, katie, pick it up there and ask you to put your prosecutor hat on and how this will look and sound different this federal trial than the one we just saw? >> well, as sarah mentioned, right? a focus actually on a racial component, and that was a key strategy in the underlying case that just went to trial and that we just secured our guilty verdicts for. right? the prosecutor did not make this case about race. and strategically that makes sense, because you had an almost all-white jury listening to the f...