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They could try to -- what they would do is refer this to the united states attorney in the district of columbia and that person is part of the justice department. ultimately that office could decide not to act on it. i would say, though, that he could -- he's already testified. and that prior testimony, if it's false, is a problem for him. now, i suppose what he's going to say is i was mistaken or i forgot something. you know, he'll try to say it wasn't a purposeful false statement. that statement would have to be knowingly and willfully false for it to be something that could be prosecutable....

The president, president putin. they've been together for a long, long time. he sees putin in a way every day in a way most others don't. he is a senior person. somebody obviously gave mr. cohen the advice he's the guy you need to contact to get to putin. sick imagine somebody telling him that. but that he would respond i think is very unusual and maybe it suggests that you know, they no longer think that president trump is useful to them and they're not concerned about undermining him. >> paul butler, former prosecutor here, put your prosecutor hat on and put this all together for us because ...

There's no journalist asking him to respond. and let's be clear who did dmitry peskov is. i know him. i worked with him. he's not just a press spokesperson. he is a very close confidante of the president, president putin. they've been together for a long, long time. he sees putin every day in a way most others don't. he is a senior person. somebody obviously gave mr. cohen the advice he's the guy you need to contact to get to putin. i can imagine somebody telling him that. but that he would respond i think is very unusual and maybe it suggests that you know, they no longer think that president...

It details him reaching out directly to putin's adviser to his spokesperson in the government. >> nick, put your prosecutor hat on here. michael cohen, like all of donald trump's lawyers, tend to dismiss and poopoo these things, in fact, i think he said something along the lines of, it shouldn't surprise anyone that the trump organization has business dealings all over the world. the job of mueller here is to figure out what interference russia had in the election. if you were robert mueller right now what's the best piece of evidence you have seen? >> the best piece i have seen is probably th...

That's almost certainly going to drive the interest of robert mueller. i imagine it will give the mueller team an excuse to dig deeper into the trump organization, to scrutinize the finances, find out if there were any other meetings, perhaps even go back earlier in the calendar before the campaign to look at earlier efforts to do business in russia. this is all going to become part of the investigation and that makes the president very nervous. but the importance of the new reporting out today is that it actually documents the first time senior level trump adviser, michael cohen an executive ...