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>> mimi, from a prosecutor standpoint, okay, look, if manafort is key to answering a lot of these questions that is mueller presumably has about russia, about 2016, about anything, if he offers potential answers on a lot of those in, terms of giving him a deal from a prosecutor's standpoint, how does that work? do you get some assurance up front the information he's going to give su going to lead to other prosecutions or take a chance maybe the information doesn't lead to anything but we still cut a favorable deal for him anyway? >> well, it's a process. and if we're talking -- by cutting a de...

Counsel's question. whether it's an actual in-person interview. these are things that are being talked about inside of the west wing by ty cobb and john dowd according to people familiar with those discussions about how to handle this as it continues to heat up. the white house has not made any firm decisions but continues to maintain that it's open to working with the mueller team. >> and let me just read this headline one more time from your paper, robert costa, news breaking in the last 30 minutes that bob mueller seeks to question donald trump about flynn and comey departures. chuck, let m...

A positive strong individual who understands how to talk to people, not talk at people. and to ensure that everybody involved, that the citizens of the city of new york feel the compassion that they have for all of those loved ones and then at the same time, he's got to understand the individual who is speaking for our government must understand that his words are important. you can't immediately say this guy was a crack pot or -- you don't do things like that. what you do is try to let these people know that in the future and right now, we're working on identifying you, the next would be befo...

For everyone concerned. they're doing the exact opposite here. president trump is involving himself directly. everybody who has conversations with him are brought into it and as is he. and he -- he is bringing himself right into the middle of it. and it's -- it appears -- certainly from a prosecutor standpoint -- remember this is all in the context at least in my mind of the comey firing, which smacks of obstruction of justice -- is they're looking at a piece of a puzzle in and of itself putting out a false statement to the press is not illegal. but it is a -- it helps a prosecutor weave a nar...

Because if he had the conversations then he would become a witness to that. and it would just unnecessarily complicate lives for everyone concerned. they're doing the exact opposite here. president trump is involving himself directly. everybody who has conversations with him are brought into it and as is he. and he -- he is bringing himself right into the middle of it. and it's -- it appears -- certainly from a prosecutor standpoint -- remember this is all in the context at least in my mind of the comey firing, which smacks of obstruction of justice -- is they're looking at a piece of puzzle t...