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For everyone concerned. they're doing the exact opposite here. president trump is involving himself directly. everybody who has conversations with him are brought into it and as is he. and he -- he is bringing himself right into the middle of it. and it's -- it appears -- certainly from a prosecutor standpoint -- remember this is all in the context at least in my mind of the comey firing, which smacks of obstruction of justice -- is they're looking at a piece of a puzzle in and of itself putting out a false statement to the press is not illegal. but it is a -- it helps a prosecutor weave a nar...

Because if he had the conversations then he would become a witness to that. and it would just unnecessarily complicate lives for everyone concerned. they're doing the exact opposite here. president trump is involving himself directly. everybody who has conversations with him are brought into it and as is he. and he -- he is bringing himself right into the middle of it. and it's -- it appears -- certainly from a prosecutor standpoint -- remember this is all in the context at least in my mind of the comey firing, which smacks of obstruction of justice -- is they're looking at a piece of puzzle t...

Right into the middle of it. and it's -- it appears -- certainly from a prosecutor standpoint -- remember this is all in the context at least in my mind of the comey firing, which smacks of obstruction of justice -- is they're looking at a piece of puzzle that in and of itself putting out a false statement to the press is not illegal. but it is a -- it helps a prosecutor weave a narrative of a story >> that's right. >> that the government -- the trump administration does not want to get out. be and it helps explain a lot of their conduct. >> and jeremy about jay sekulow who is now hanging out ...