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To say, not that this individual is under investigation or it could be bad, but rather, as you put it, he could face charges as soon as this summer. >> well, it is exactly what you said, ari. a grand jury has been hearing evidence about mr. weisselberg. we know the prosecutors in mr. vance's office have obtained a full picture of his financial situation. they have gotten his personal tax returns. what it looks like is they are finding out everything they can find out about mr. weisselberg. so this stage they have reached, the evidence they're hearing in the grand jury, just gives us that confi...

Bigger fish is paul manafort, for now. >> we see him there. he issued a statement saying it's regrettable what rick gates has done, pleading guilty. he does not intend to do so. what do you make of that, the fact that he is still in this? >> he does not presently intend to plead guilty. the federal government is very, very good at securing convictions. somewhere in the 95 percentile conviction for federal cases. think about how manafort's resources are being drained day by day, on attorneys' fees a the charges pile up. sooner or later he will have to make a basic risk assessment. can i roll th...