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>> this is about saving lives, this is killing americans if we take this bill away if we repeal this bill. >>neil: texas democratic congressman jackson lee, killing americans. you really believe that? >>guest: it really is. i am standing in front of a picture of a senior citizen who had pneumonia and if not for the constitutionally protected medicare she might have truly under certain circumstances lost her life. there are people would have been living with agree existing conditions who now will be able to have insurance, people with chronic illnesses, including an individual we saw yesterday ...

Providing the health care and we need the same thing for children and fog 26-year-olds and those with pre-existing conditions. >>neil: you are using this woman to make a statement and you are right to argue in defense of something you believe passionately but i am saying you are using the wrong photograph. the wrong old lady. >>guest: no, i am not. you are distracted because i'm telling the truth and you don't want to hear it. >>neil: i am distracted because it is like in my business, if i use the wrong graphic or referring to you, and we have the wrong title for you, in my business, that's ca...

If it was not adequate care and reversed it and said this person is on the brink because of the monstrosity of the health care law we just passed, would you object to that? >>guest: i would not object to it. i would disagree. >>neil: of course you would object. >>guest: i would debate it. that is what we are doing. i believe my facts are accurate because what i have used it for is to show that medicare, which is a government-run to a certain extent, has not been proven unconstitutional. >>neil: that woman in the picture, that woman, congresswoman, that woman in that picture you are showing us,...

This woman would be dead, you are saying that nice lady behind you would be dead if not for your actions. >>guest: you are mishearing, a government run health care program such as medicare, both is unconstitutional and help saved lives like the individual behind me. >>neil: medicare didn't change. it didn't change. some have argued you put new pressures on it but that lady in that bed behind you that your staffer, congresswoman, your staff is holding up that picture, they are holding up the wrong picture. >>guest: the argument is annoying you because i'm right, i'm right to say that --. >>neil...

Behind closed doors and crafting a repeal proposal with very little democratic input? >>guest: well, the repeal proposal is easy and we had that with our promise with america, we are repealing the health care bill and we will replace it with something that makes sense and we have talked about the last couple of years and today, and when we see what our alternative is and it will be coming out, people will see cross state competition for insurance, real lawsuit abuse reform, not job killing policies we saw from obamacare. >>neil: congressman, i had congressman shealy jackson lee and she showed ...