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Everybody can watch those but too often they get labelled as black. and "moonlight" where it's a universal thing and we hope now after watching these films, be celebrated is that ultimately people understand that those stories can translate to other people and we don't need this validation to matter. even if we don't get the oscar, these stories matter because black people mattered. >> do you think people wanted to hear more protest speeches? >> no and they were mostly from the foreign nominees and winners not from the american winners. but when trump said today it was about him, there was a c...

The challenge that whiteness is universal and blackness is understood as particular. you can have big fat greek wedding andkhit's seen as a stoy for everybody. if i tell a story like best man holiday it'sç marked as a blac man film. the story of "moonlight" is what it means to be young and black in where blacktt clear love is seen as an act. it's a very particular thing.÷ú it it's universal is that ultimate people understand those stories can translate to other people is that we don't need the foundation in order toç matter. even if we don't get the oscars. >> i have 15 seconds left, do ...

>> bill: she was giving it to you. [laughter] >> i will say this. sometimes, when they are giving protest speeches, they feel rushed. i think we have to eliminate some of the minor categories so we can let these protest speeches breathe. >> bill: so we can listen to "meet the press" on the golden globes. >> have another option, too. we should have two of our trust, a new one where everyone plugs politics and that an old one, where everyone gets a dolled up. that can be the oscars. we can have another one called the felix's where everyone comes in a nice gun and gets the award i think the direc...

You. [laughter] >> i will say this. sometimes, when they are giving protest speeches, they feel rushed. i think we have to eliminate some of the minor categories so we can let these protest speeches breathe. >> bill: so we can listen to "meet the press" on the golden globes. >>er option, too. we should have two of our trust, a new one where everyone plugs politics and that an old one, where everyone gets a dolled up. that can be the oscars. we can have another one called the felix's where everyone comes in a nice gun and gets the award i think the director and goes home. let's do it that way. ...

>> i will say this. sometimes, when they are giving protest speeches, they feel rushed. i think we have to eliminate some of the minor categories so we can let these protest speeches breathe. >> bill: so we can listen to "meet the press" on the golden globes. that's what we need. >> have another option too. we should have tworu award show, a new one where everyone plugs politics and then an old one where everyone gets a dolled up. that can be the oscars. we can have another one called the felixes where everyone comes in a nice gown and gets their award and thanks the director and goes home. le...