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Think they know right now. so some of this is wishful thinking. so when the president goes out and repeats these talking points, no collusion and so on, that is based on essentially redacted documents coming from the special counsel's office, some of which we saw friday night. so at this point i think a lot of this goes back to what donald rumsfeld back during the bush administration, there are no knowns and no unknowns, and at this point people inside the white house recognize they just don't know what robert mueller is going to do and they can base what they think going to happen at this poi...

Administration, there are no knowns and no unknowns, and at this point people inside the white house recognize they just don't know what robert mueller is going to the and they can base what they think going to happen at this point on what they understand to be the case. but obviously robert mueller is not really finished with his investigation at this point. but it is important to know i did talk to a source who expressed to advisers that he does think impeachment is a real possibility. he just doesn't know if it's certain at this point. >> is that a protester drum somewhere in the distance i...