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Krypto. so unless they can solve a problem that s been around for that long, then we re in safe hands. so if anybody watching right now would like to get it, and i understand it s free, where do they find it? protonmail.ch, the swiss domain. or they can find us on facebook and twitter at proton mail. have you heard anything from the nsa? has anyone contacted you from there that you know of, or tried? so we ve had some very suspect contacts reach out, but it s kind of hard to verify that. i bet some guys from the nsa would probably like to have proton mail as their e-mail service for their personal accounts. yeah. that s the funny thing. exactly. the good news is, the nsa can see you now. this whole segment was not encrypted. you re out there. right. all right. jason stockman, co-creator of proton mail joining us from boston, thank you very much. thanks for having me. for now it s free. i m sure it won t be soon. maybe. timely for sure. coming up, talk about ....