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Green's following is actually so intense kanye west who has said he's proud doesn't read books once rapped there's real stuff f once wrapped there's stuff i i never read, the only book i could have read i could have wroe. >> he's joining us now. it is such an honor to have you on the show. >> it's an honor for me being on the show. thank you, ari. >> you say trump fails most of these laws, what are other examples? what do you mean he fails at the laws of power? >> a lot of power are the signals that you send to people. you mentioned the law of always say less than necessary. when you talk with...

The steering committee who wants to redefine marriage. that is not acceptable. that is the message sent not just by social conservatives but those who understand for the conservative movement to be successful it has to respect core conservative principles each aspect of the movement respects. >> tony perkins, thank you very much. for an entirely different point of view, christopher baron, chairman of go proud. at this stage does cpac lose its influence because of your participate? >> absolutely not. let me start off by saying i feel like bob dole after listening to tony. tony needs to stop lyi...