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I don't see how they're going to allow this level of lawlessness. and you know there's other things that are being reported now. whether it's the jared kushner/khashoggi thing that one of the whistle-blowers mentioned or other elements of illegality. and so for me, again, i'm a numbers person. plus 15% on the polling. i think that's pretty damning. and i think the bad news is yet to come for the president. i mean, we're just getting started. >> what do you mean, the bad news is yet to come? what else is going to come out? >> well, you've got three or four whistle-blowers and you've got people ...

Like right now with the challenges and trying to contain president trump? >> the challenges from the outside seem to be just overwhelming. the president has certainly behaved in ways that can fairly be characterized as inappropriate. he has breached protocols. he shouldn't be behaving the way he has toward the intelligence community, law enforcement or the military. that said, i don't think we have a pry ma fascia clear kacase of obstruction of justice. the president has to act corruptly to have that. it is not clear he is acting corruptly. there is a pretty powerful suggestion here that not o...