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Have we learned lessons from just last year or are we going to be late on this again? this is really concerning. and frankly, if this mask issue wasn't so politicized, i think the answer would be very clear, that indoors, especially when -- even if you're vaccinated, if you're around a lot of unvaccinated people and you're in an area where the viral transmission is high, you should probably put a mask on. i am not sure why this is still so challenging a year and a half into this pandemic. >> obviously, there's concern that if that message is sent to a lot of people, that some people are going ...

What kaitlan was talking about and i have talked to dr. walensky, as well, about the masks. it's very interesting, to me, at this point. to -- to -- to say are we going to get ahead of this or not? have we learned the lessons from just last year? or are we going to be late on this, again? i mean, this is really concerning. and frankly, if this mask issue wasn't so politicized, i think the answer would be very clear. that, indoors, especially when you're -- even if you're vaccinated, if you are around a lot of unvaccinated people, and you're in an area where the viral transmission is high, you ...